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Evil Hypnotist · Oct 20, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Greetings all

How much xp do think a character should have before they can describe themselves as 'experienced' in their profession e.g "experienced nuker lfg farming group".

Savio · Oct 20, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44

If you're a good player at all, you'll never put "experienced" in your recruiting message. I don't take anyone who tries to get in based on experience, rank, or any other bull like that.

NatalieD · Oct 20, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

I thought when people said that they meant the player is experienced, i.e., knows how to play that build well. But that would probably make too much sense.

Chobby · Oct 20, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

If you're a good player at all, you'll never put "experienced" in your recruiting message. I don't take anyone who tries to get in based on experience, rank, or any other bull like that.

totally agree..... a player can go through the game and gain experience and still have no idea how to play as a team or even their own skills

JodieFoster · Oct 21, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00

My warrior has 1.1 million experience from farming...as an example that is very experienced IMO.

However for a non-farming charcater, I would say that 500k experience is very high for a charcter.

Experienced? Once you beat the game with a character, its experience(unless of course youre doing nothing and relying on teammates)

This is only my opinion, there is no correct answer to your question.

Love,

Jodie

Pik uR BuM · Oct 21, 2005, 07:37 AM // 07:37

In my opinion the amount of experience you aquired on your character (e.g. your character has more experience than other character) doesnt mean that your more exp. then that person.

The only way to truly tell if that person is good/exp. is the way s/he plays.

One more thing is that someone who is so called an experience player... maybe exp. at farming but not so good at pvp etc. Experience just comes down to what your good at doing weither its farming or pvp etc. or both.

In short simple terms: an experience player should know what s/he is doing.

LordMahal · Oct 21, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

A lot of times these so called experienced players have gained high XP from scrolls that double or triple xp per kill. Not only that, but experience and rank may have been gained because his or her team carried their sorry butts the whole way... i.e. Phil Jackson always having a good team to coach doesnt make him a great coach.
In my eyes a truely experienced player has tried all things, gone through the game, and most importantly, he/she knows the strengths and limitations of the other character classes in their party/guild, and knows how to compensate for those things with their own character's abilities.

Racthoh · Oct 21, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

Ultimately the whole system is flawed, and advertising yourself generally doesn't do any good. You could just go "monk/nuke/tank lfg" and more often than not get several invites. Just dumb sometimes.

I personally have stopped advertising myself because I only want to play with balanced groups (none of this 4 ele, 2 warrior, 2 monk crap). Takes a while to get into a group but I'd rather give what experience I have to offer to those willing to accept the other professions. Although, sometimes I do just frustrated after a while and join any group looking for a warrior. That, or go and farm.

You do could like some people and judge if they're experienced or not based on if they're wearing droks, 15k, or fissure armour. But that... that is just dumb.

striderkaaru · Oct 21, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

i generally agree with what has already been said. someone advertising themselves as experienced means nothing. that's why i highly doubt when someone claims to be a "50 billion million XP tank LFG for FoW."

i once partied with a warrior who claimed to be very experienced in fow and already had 70+ shards. yet, he had no idea what spiteful spirit even was.

for PvE, it's better to be humble and party with others who are humble, then build your friends list based on people who you have seen for yourself to know what they're doing.

huh · Oct 21, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Hahahaha "experienced" based on experience?
I have about 1.2 mil xp on my warrior (not much compared to others but still quite a bit).
Ask me to tank, and I'll go "huh"?

Hahahahahaha
Ok maybe not that stupid.
But I still can't tank for nuts (I did mention this somewhere before)
I know what I'm supposed to do (taking aggro, keeping stuff away from casters, not running like an idiot), just not how to go about it.

One day when I feel like doing something hard (or when I hit my target gold amount, whichever comes first), I might start venturing into UW and FoW but for now, I just sit around doing nothing, or gambling.

Anyone care to help a noob out when the time comes?

Evil Hypnotist · Oct 21, 2005, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Thanks for the replies....

I totally agree that it's a case of "It's my actions that define me" rather than what you say (FYI: I did not steal that quote from batman begins....ok I did :P).

Most good players know this, however it doesn't stop some people from acting like the world has ended when they die...or if anyone disagrees with them about which slope to go down towards sorrow's furnace, etc. Being a monk I am usually the one blamed for disaster, even though some nutball tank has pulled 3 groups of badguys instead of 1.

My point is that playing the game (AND IT IS JUST A GAME) well, and being good at GW are two different things. I notice people tend to realise who 'isnt up to their standard' pretty quickly and do one of two things: shout at them A LOT, or quit and try another party. Neither choice helps anyone and just displays a lack of patience which IMO is the most noobish thing in GW. Ironically, people who describe themselves as 'experienced' often tend to be the least patient with their party.

Remember there is no 'I' in TEAM

Good hunting!

LordMahal · Oct 21, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

But there is a ME.... in team.

User Name · Oct 21, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

EXP is an awful way to gauge someones experience. Every WaMo in the game has over a million experience from farming griffons...I'd never want one in my group though as I can almost guarantee watching them play would be akin to watching a retard hump a door knob

huh · Oct 21, 2005, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name

EXP is an awful way to gauge someones experience. Every WaMo in the game has over a million experience from farming griffons...I'd never want one in my group though as I can almost guarantee watching them play would be akin to watching a retard hump a door knob

Hey!!
Thats not fair!
I did mention I was a noob

And I did kindly ask for help when the time comes.

But a straight up "I'd never want one in my group" kinda kills the mood...
Oh well...guess there are 250,000 other people who might help.
Wait, that number is too high.
250 people is more like it.

If all else fails, I'll make my own build

Should be able to afford 50k for 50 entries.
And if I'm still unable to create a build after 50 entries, I concede defeat and this game owns me.

Alone) · Oct 21, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Only way you know how to tell if someone is experienced is by playing with 'em. I say go with friends and find ways to work together, and build upon that. That way, later in the future, you can depend to call on to your friends because you know what they do already. Usually.

Oct 20, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#1
Evil Hypnotist Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: I Dragon I [PAIN]	experienced? Greetings all How much xp do think a character should have before they can describe themselves as 'experienced' in their profession e.g "experienced nuker lfg farming group".

Oct 20, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#2
Savio Teenager with attitude Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	If you're a good player at all, you'll never put "experienced" in your recruiting message. I don't take anyone who tries to get in based on experience, rank, or any other bull like that.

Oct 20, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#3
NatalieD Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	I thought when people said that they meant the player is experienced, i.e., knows how to play that build well. But that would probably make too much sense.

Oct 21, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#5
JodieFoster Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: SOUL Profession: Me/N	My warrior has 1.1 million experience from farming...as an example that is very experienced IMO. However for a non-farming charcater, I would say that 500k experience is very high for a charcter. Experienced? Once you beat the game with a character, its experience(unless of course youre doing nothing and relying on teammates) This is only my opinion, there is no correct answer to your question. Love, Jodie

Oct 21, 2005, 07:37 AM // 07:37	#6
Pik uR BuM Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: aussieland	In my opinion the amount of experience you aquired on your character (e.g. your character has more experience than other character) doesnt mean that your more exp. then that person. The only way to truly tell if that person is good/exp. is the way s/he plays. One more thing is that someone who is so called an experience player... maybe exp. at farming but not so good at pvp etc. Experience just comes down to what your good at doing weither its farming or pvp etc. or both. In short simple terms: an experience player should know what s/he is doing.

Oct 21, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#7
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	A lot of times these so called experienced players have gained high XP from scrolls that double or triple xp per kill. Not only that, but experience and rank may have been gained because his or her team carried their sorry butts the whole way... i.e. Phil Jackson always having a good team to coach doesnt make him a great coach. In my eyes a truely experienced player has tried all things, gone through the game, and most importantly, he/she knows the strengths and limitations of the other character classes in their party/guild, and knows how to compensate for those things with their own character's abilities.

Oct 21, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51	#8
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	Ultimately the whole system is flawed, and advertising yourself generally doesn't do any good. You could just go "monk/nuke/tank lfg" and more often than not get several invites. Just dumb sometimes. I personally have stopped advertising myself because I only want to play with balanced groups (none of this 4 ele, 2 warrior, 2 monk crap). Takes a while to get into a group but I'd rather give what experience I have to offer to those willing to accept the other professions. Although, sometimes I do just frustrated after a while and join any group looking for a warrior. That, or go and farm. You do could like some people and judge if they're experienced or not based on if they're wearing droks, 15k, or fissure armour. But that... that is just dumb.

Oct 21, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18	#9
striderkaaru Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer Profession: W/	i generally agree with what has already been said. someone advertising themselves as experienced means nothing. that's why i highly doubt when someone claims to be a "50 billion million XP tank LFG for FoW." i once partied with a warrior who claimed to be very experienced in fow and already had 70+ shards. yet, he had no idea what spiteful spirit even was. for PvE, it's better to be humble and party with others who are humble, then build your friends list based on people who you have seen for yourself to know what they're doing.

Oct 21, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27	#10
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	Hahahaha "experienced" based on experience? I have about 1.2 mil xp on my warrior (not much compared to others but still quite a bit). Ask me to tank, and I'll go "huh"? Hahahahahaha Ok maybe not that stupid. But I still can't tank for nuts (I did mention this somewhere before) I know what I'm supposed to do (taking aggro, keeping stuff away from casters, not running like an idiot), just not how to go about it. One day when I feel like doing something hard (or when I hit my target gold amount, whichever comes first), I might start venturing into UW and FoW but for now, I just sit around doing nothing, or gambling. Anyone care to help a noob out when the time comes?

Oct 21, 2005, 03:00 PM // 15:00	#11
Evil Hypnotist Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: I Dragon I [PAIN]	Thanks for the replies.... I totally agree that it's a case of "It's my actions that define me" rather than what you say (FYI: I did not steal that quote from batman begins....ok I did :P). Most good players know this, however it doesn't stop some people from acting like the world has ended when they die...or if anyone disagrees with them about which slope to go down towards sorrow's furnace, etc. Being a monk I am usually the one blamed for disaster, even though some nutball tank has pulled 3 groups of badguys instead of 1. My point is that playing the game (AND IT IS JUST A GAME) well, and being good at GW are two different things. I notice people tend to realise who 'isnt up to their standard' pretty quickly and do one of two things: shout at them A LOT, or quit and try another party. Neither choice helps anyone and just displays a lack of patience which IMO is the most noobish thing in GW. Ironically, people who describe themselves as 'experienced' often tend to be the least patient with their party. Remember there is no 'I' in TEAM Good hunting!

Oct 21, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#12
LordMahal Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Profession: R/Mo	But there is a ME.... in team.

Oct 21, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06	#13
User Name Banned Join Date: Sep 2005	EXP is an awful way to gauge someones experience. Every WaMo in the game has over a million experience from farming griffons...I'd never want one in my group though as I can almost guarantee watching them play would be akin to watching a retard hump a door knob

Oct 21, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13	#15
Alone) Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Campbell, California Guild: Legio Imortalii Profession: W/Mo	Only way you know how to tell if someone is experienced is by playing with 'em. I say go with friends and find ways to work together, and build upon that. That way, later in the future, you can depend to call on to your friends because you know what they do already. Usually.